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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Chris, <br>
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      At that point where you have to repeatedly do something to
      multiple boxes, I would suggest configuration management. With
      SaltStack I'm able to do remote execution over countless boxes.
      For instance, I just ran yum update -y on 3 machines that needed
      PAM updated. This would have worked the same if I had 300
      machines. I didn't read this entire thread but it sounds as if
      you've a lot of xp boxes to administer, have you ever used group
      policy? Configuration management works much the same way. <br>
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      There are a lot of different variations of Config management to
      chose from, Chef, Puppet, Ansible, SaltStack, CFengine. <br>
      <br>
      I believe I'm set to present on SaltStack at the next Wlug meeting
      on the 17th. If you've more then one box to administer you may
      find this talk interesting and useful. <br>
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      Best<br>
      -Derek DeJonghe.&nbsp; <br>
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      On 04/10/2014 07:50 AM, Chris Baty wrote:<br>
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          <div>One more question: if I ha a bunch of ubuntu boxes, all
            with a myAdmin account and a DSA key, can I do something
            like a 'myAdmin@* apt-get install requiredPackage'?<br>
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          Just curious.<br>
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        Chris<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Chris
          Baty <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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              <div>THANKS FOR ALL THE THOUGHTS.<span class="HOEnZb"><font
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              <span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">CHRIS<br>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 2:29
                    PM, Josh Catana <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                      <div dir="ltr">I've always used rdesktop for my
                        linux rdp client and never had issues.
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                        <div>Just throwing that out there as an option.</div>
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                              On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Jeff
                              Hanson <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                                        <div>Check for proprietary apps
                                          that require Windows.&nbsp; Not
                                          everything works on Wine.&nbsp;
                                          Crossover Office may be better
                                          if they are using Access DBs
                                          on the clients.<br>
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                                        Vinagre and Remmina are clients
                                        for RDP.<br>
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                                      Excluding proprietary app problems
                                      on the clients, you'll probably
                                      have more problems with the
                                      hardware and users.<br>
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                                      Old GPUs, especially integrated
                                      Intel (8xx series), SiS, and Via
                                      devices, have limited support (if
                                      any).&nbsp; <br>
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                                      Some old printers, scanners, and
                                      AiO multifunction devices don't
                                      work well.&nbsp; DeskJet 7xx
                                      (software-based "Winprinters"),
                                      Lexmark 6xx (and Dell 7xx
                                      equivalents), Visioneer OneTouch
                                      scanners, are either useless or
                                      not worthing fighting with.&nbsp; Many
                                      scanners will require firmware to
                                      be loaded at boot.<br>
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                                    Internet content filtering is
                                    practically non-existent.&nbsp;
                                    DansGuardian is barely maintained
                                    and won't support https/SSL/TLS
                                    filtering except by domain name and
                                    IP.<br>
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                                  If the systems are going to access
                                  files directly on the server then
                                  you'll have to support SMB and logins.<br>
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                                    <div>If the clients are only using
                                      web browsers, thin-client hardware
                                      (and maybe a new server with LTSP)
                                      may be better.&nbsp; Main advantage is
                                      lower energy consumption.<br>
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                                    <div>On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:17 AM,
                                      Chris Baty <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                                                      <div>Hi guys,<br>
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                                                      Through ironic
                                                      circumstances I've
                                                      become the IT
                                                      Coordinator of a
                                                      moderately sized
                                                      Ann Arbor
                                                      non-profit.&nbsp; Our
                                                      backbone is a
                                                      Windows 2008
                                                      Server (lucky me)
                                                      but our staff
                                                      accesses it, via
                                                      Remote Desktop,
                                                      through a bunch of
                                                      old XP machines.&nbsp;
                                                      Now that XP is no
                                                      longer supported
                                                      by Microsoft I'm
                                                      seriously thinking
                                                      about installing
                                                      Kubuntu (because
                                                      of it's similarity
                                                      to Windows, low
                                                      cost and
                                                      resistance to
                                                      viruses) on our
                                                      old XP machines.&nbsp;
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                                                    Has any one had a
                                                    similar decision?<br>
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                                                <span><font
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                                                    Baty<br>
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                                              <span><font
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                                            <span><font color="#888888">Ann
                                                Arbor Center for
                                                Independent Living<br>
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